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Infinity Ziona
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I was reported in game for using the f word by a person who has spent the last 3 months following me around from system to system, called me a pedophile, using profanity, and nothing has been done about that person even though I reported them for harassment after they specifically stated they were here to harass only me (screenshotted and supplied to GM's), they're still in system non-stop,. I moved into next system and they've now moved another alt into that system to continue...
So I have received a warning for saying "****" while both in game and on these forums the word is used constantly and no action is taken against the special CCP snowflakes there or here. I'd also point out that on these forums its been implied that I'd be better off killing myself, my person in RL has constantly been personally attacked and still no action is taken against those people (Kaalrous is a great example of someone that seems impervious to sanctions against trolling, personal attacks and bad language).
This is an adult game, played by adults, and imo the use of the word "****" is not an actionable petition-able offence and not a violation of the EULA simply because its used in every system frequently and without sanction. The devs even use it from time to time. For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Considering this I am unsubbing 6 of my 8 accounts.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. I'm fairly certain they're your alts harassing me too right? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Oh, and this. Considering the position you took on the E1 thing: AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah because the using F word is the same as what Erotica1 did... Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. Sure, but it still means 6 accounts that don't need their stuff any more. So hand it over for safe-keeping. No it doesn't. It means transferring all the stuff to my other 2 accounts. Troll more. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:02:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned.
I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:09:00 -
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As you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:11:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned. I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide. Don't give them the satisfaction, Infinity, for crying out loud. I will send you the mails I send out when I get raged on and called every name in the book. Always polite and concise...despite what people have called me. I would be happy to EvE Mail you examples. Also, IB4L for discussing warnings and bans.    I think this is something that needs to be outed in front of the community. They can lock it I'll just start a blog on CCP and its special snowflakes instead. Something they can't control. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:15:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:23:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read. Clearly the GMs disagreed. To me its clear that this petition is just another form of harassment by this person. They're someone that created 3 alts at the within days of each other, made a beeline from high deep into stain to the system I was in and started a campaign of harassment which they even stated was aimed specifically at me.
That's whats clear. Its a game,, you don't like someone shoot them, this passive aggressive real life stuff is not imo an acceptable form of pvp in EVE.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:40:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Finally, a good thread. :popcorn: I know, but in before lock. Good old IZ has commited 3 lockable violations so far, not the least of which is discussing warnings and bans. 10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.
The above does not prohibit the discussion of "I was warned" it prohibits discussion the details of the correspondence. Its clear from the comments regarding Erotica ones banning and the lack of moderation of such that generalized comments are acceptable. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:50:00 -
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Admitting it called me a pedophile and implied I was watching child ****.
You know I grew up in a really rough area, we called pedo's rockspiders and you didn't call someone a pedo without good reason. If you did you'd likely end up beaten severely or worse.
Its not something I take lightly and Its not acceptable and should be acted apon. On the other hand using the F word is accepted and normal in EvE.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:54:00 -
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Magnus Cortex wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read. So you're ninja plexing in 0.0 with an army of alts in a corp called afk cloakers and you're upset because someone is following you??? Actually I don't do that anymore. I did that to disprove Baltecs claim that null sec payed worse than high. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Notice how the screencap doesn't actually contain him saying that, but rather IZ quoting it and claiming he said it. Actually I propose that he said it and his reply is "and?" meaning, yes and so what. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:57:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: To me its clear that this petition is just another form of harassment by this person. They're someone that created 3 alts at the within days of each other, made a beeline from high deep into stain to the system I was in and started a campaign of harassment which they even stated was aimed specifically at me.
That's whats clear. Its a game,, you don't like someone shoot them, this passive aggressive real life stuff is not imo an acceptable form of pvp in EVE.
GM's need to step up and stop applying their rules arbitrarily.
You live in NPC stain, you have nothing you need defend, there is no reason you can't jumpclone out and do other things. It seems somehow that you've pretty much invented for yourself the kind of restrictions that you've berated me for having as a renter. The rules are quiet clear, you cannot follow a person, going on 4 months now, constantly, verbally harassing them. I shouldn't have to jump out to avoid harassment, it should not be allowed, is not supposed to be allowed, and the player in question should be told to leave. They have not attacked, made any isk from or peformed any other normal EvE function. They are there, admittedly, to harass ME as they stated. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:58:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Admitting it called me a pedophile and implied I was watching child ****.You know I grew up in a really rough area, we called pedo's rockspiders and you didn't call someone a pedo without good reason. If you did you'd likely end up beaten severely or worse. Its not something I take lightly and Its not acceptable and should be acted apon. On the other hand using the F word is accepted and normal in EvE. In the defense of the so-called "badguymeanieface" why didn't you use the block feature, Infinity? Y'know. Logic.  Block doesn't stop someone from constantly following you, and given they're afk cloaking, it would be foolish to block them since when they're talking you know they're active.
Also I don't think its one me to take an action, its on the person whose decided to stalk me for months on end to not say offensive things, to not follow one player constantly. That's the bottom line. Its a game, if your sick in the head and like to stalk people then you don't belong in EVE. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:00:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: The rules are quiet clear, you cannot follow a person, going on 4 months now, constantly, verbally harassing them. I shouldn't have to jump out to avoid harassment, it should not be allowed, is not supposed to be allowed, and the player in question should be told to leave. They have not attacked, made any isk from or peformed any other normal EvE function. They are there, admittedly, to harass ME as they stated.
The GMs disagree. GM's are paid by CCP to apply the rules. They can't disagree since the rules are quite distinct regarding real life harassment of one player by another. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:05:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Can anyone join the Infinity Ziona Camper Club? Because I have a remaining slot on my account and honestly had no idea you get get this level of butthurt from following Ziona around. I don't mind if you do at all as long as you follow the rules:
Quote:You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Clearly calling someone a pedophile and insinuating they are "watching child ****" is harassing, libelous and defamatory.
Clearly following one player around constantly is harassing.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:07:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: The rules are quiet clear, you cannot follow a person, going on 4 months now, constantly, verbally harassing them. I shouldn't have to jump out to avoid harassment, it should not be allowed, is not supposed to be allowed, and the player in question should be told to leave. They have not attacked, made any isk from or peformed any other normal EvE function. They are there, admittedly, to harass ME as they stated.
The GMs disagree. GM's are paid by CCP to apply the rules. They can't disagree since the rules are quite distinct regarding real life harassment of one player by another. Pretty much everything is open to GM interpretation. The GM's interpreted that the real victim was the other guy. You lose, but please continue having a meltdown here. I'm not having a meltdown, I'm discussing this like an adult, unlike most of you bad trolls. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:09:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Can anyone join the Infinity Ziona Camper Club? Because I have a remaining slot on my account and honestly had no idea you get get this level of butthurt from following Ziona around. Just remember Malc, you cannot have a manufactured "harassment" made against you. Keep your logs handy. And screencap often. Still have yet to see any actual proof these people "harassed" Ziona. Sensationalism seems to be the rage these days. Harassment is bad, mmmkay. Only CCP Ripard can tell if you're being harassed in game via magical out of game mind rays. I just want to follow a player around, see how they work, and chat in local inside of the Eve client. You're welcome but don't be surprised if you're arbitrarily banned, just because. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:10:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Can anyone join the Infinity Ziona Camper Club? Because I have a remaining slot on my account and honestly had no idea you get get this level of butthurt from following Ziona around. I don't mind if you do at all as long as you follow the rules: Quote:You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights. Clearly calling someone a pedophile and insinuating they are "watching child ****" is harassing, libelous and defamatory. Clearly following one player around constantly is harassing. Just be forewarned. OMG.. heading the the character bazzar. I've never bought a character before. WTB: Cloaky Manticore pilot. Must be able to follow other players. As opposed to a non-cloaky manticore pilot? Probably best to learn about bombers before you buy a cheap non cloaky one.... Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Clearly following one player around constantly is harassing. That entirely depends on how it's being done. How much of it is just the two of you occupying and vying for the same bit of space? Quote:I'm not having a meltdown Your OP and subsequent posting suggests otherwise. So what in my posts points to me having a meltdown. Is it my reasoned responses to the trolls, my calm manner or my ability to put a actual sentence together vs the other posters in this thread?
I strongly oppose any decision of yours to branch out into forum psychology. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: So what in my posts points to me having a meltdown.
That'd be the one where you said you're unsubbing 6 accounts because you didn't get your way. No. Deciding that you will no longer fully support a product, to the tune of 100's of dollars per month is an intelligent way of protesting. While I will retain my 2 main accounts I have decided given the biased way I have been treated by CCP and the non-action in regards to the person who is on their 4th month of deliberate stalking and harassment of my in game character.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:So what in my posts points to me having a meltdown. Your raging and accusations against the GMs; your insistence of calling people trolls and generally lashing out at people; your petulant response to the accusations levelled at you; your inability to properly articulate and provide evidence for what has happened, mainly. Quote:I strongly oppose any decision of yours to branch out into forum psychology. Don't worry, I have no plans to. I would suggest, however, that your decision to branch out into backseat-GM:ing might not be a good oneGǪ I saw no raging. I see exaggeration and I see a lot of stupidity in this thread but its clearly not my posts or my OP. I think the posters in this thread defending passive aggressive IRL harassment against another player, and the associated comments regarding pedophila really disturbing, is that acceptable to you people in real life, child molestation and sexual assault being some form of funny quip?. I find it sick and disgusting. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Magnus Cortex wrote:Have you tried this bit of advice from the guide in your forums signature? Infinity Ziona wrote:a good extra dose of AFK'ing will usually fix the problem That in no way is relevant to the topic. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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I'm curious, wheres the irony? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:30:00 -
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Let me ask you all a question:
A) Would you petition a player for using the F word twice in local? Would you expect another player to petition you? Would you expect to be warned for using the F word? How many times per day do you hear the F word in a channel in EvE?
B) Would you create 3 accounts to specifically harass one player in EvE and continue to do so over a 4 month period? Would you call that player a pedophile and imply they're watching child pornography? Would you sit in local for hours, while that player ignores you ranting non-stop.
C) If a player did B to you or a loved one, would you expect that CCP would deal properly with that player in accordance with its rules on harassment.
D) Give B, would you take seriously a petition by that player against the player they are harassing? Would you expect CCP to?
Now some of people in this thread will of course be all for B, Wallrous being an example. But as a normal non troll, think about your answers first. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:39:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:La Nariz wrote: This is textbook cyber-bullying you see nothing wrong with your own actions and think they are perfectly okay while in reality you are treating everyone terribly. When called out on it you take up a victim complex.
I think you should get help for your cyber-bullying.
I'm running out of titles here.. does this mean we need Special Victims Unit Ripard Teg or Ripard Teg, M..D.? My wife is looking at me all crazy because I am crying and ****. This thread is comedy gold.  I'm happy you find child pornography so funny, I don't. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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PotatoOverdose wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I'm curious, wheres the irony? Just for you Ziona, Heres a link to something ironic or someone pointing out something ironic on each of the first six pages. A few pages got double treatment because I couldn't help myself. Page 1Page 2Page 3Page 3Page 4Page 5Page 5Page 6Page 6 Answer the questions I posed or are you too afraid of discovering the kind of person you are? Do you find children being sexually molested in front of camera's funny? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:46:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I'm curious, wheres the irony? Just for you Ziona, Heres a link to something ironic or someone pointing out something ironic on each of the first six pages. A few pages got double treatment because I couldn't help myself. Page 1Page 2Page 3Page 3Page 4Page 5Page 5Page 6Page 6 Answer the questions I posed or are you too afraid of discovering the kind of person you are? Do you find children being sexually molested in front of camera's funny? Notice how you are literally the only one in the thread bringing up child pornography? What a shameful thing to do to try and detract from what happened. The player followed you, you cyber-bullied them and got punished for it. Yes because that's what I was called a fkking pedophile. Its not funny. Why don't you go tell your kids or wife how funny you think someone in game following another player and calling them a child molester is... Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:49:00 -
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Me in Real Life I'll come to fan fest next year. Tell me how funny pedophilia is there. I'll give you the sternest telling off you ever got, non violently of course. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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UAxSunShine wrote:I too, am gay. You should edit this, CCP really doesn't tolerate anti-gay comments. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:52:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Me in Real Life I'll come to fan fest next year. Tell me how funny pedophilia is there. I'll give you the sternest telling off you ever got, non violently of course. Wow now you are trying to transition from cyber-bully to real life bully, what the hell man. What is messed up in your head to think this is okay? Telling someone off because they think pedophila is funny is now bullying? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:55:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. Infinity, if you quit or reduce the number of accounts you use, the 'other person' wins, is that realty what you want? Do not give the person bothering you the satisfaction of beating you. Just laugh at the person annoying you, that will eventually get to him/her and you will be left alone. Someone has to take a stand. This **** is going too far for an mmo. Its one think to hop in a ship and go camp someone to kill them but this month after month passive aggressive harassment along with very likely the worst thing you can ever call someone is crossing the line. If people read this and decide not to join up and be subjected to the same harassment at least I would have saved one person from wasting their money. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Magnus Cortex wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Me in Real Life I'll come to fan fest next year. Tell me how funny pedophilia is there. I'll give you the sternest telling off you ever got, non violently of course. Wow now you are trying to transition from cyber-bully to real life bully, what the hell man. What is messed up in your head to think this is okay? Telling someone off because they think pedophila is funny is now bullying? Violence is never the answer, verbal or non-verbal love everybody Telling someone off is not violent, especially when I specifically stated it wouldn't be violent. The last time I bashed someone was my sisters boyfriend 11 years ago, he punched her in the face in front of me after a game of vodka chess.. Pieces are shots and you lose a piece you drink it.
He lost, both the game and the use of his eye for 3 weeks. I'm actually very passive and peaceful, however I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Belt Scout wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:UAxSunShine wrote:I too, am gay. You should edit this, CCP really doesn't tolerate anti-gay comments. My old lady rides a Night Rod too. Good chics bike. . lmfao. Chics bike. Your old lady must be huge because my wife can barely move it off its stand. Its about 200kg. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny. GǪand yet, the only one who's remotely suggesting that it is, is you. Actually you're all having a good laugh at someone being harrassed over a period of months and called a pedophile. Obviously you find the idea of someone being accused of watching underage children engaging in illegal sexual acts funny. If someone said that to my face or even someone nearby in an attempt to be funny they're be in a lot of trouble.
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Belt Scout wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:UAxSunShine wrote:I too, am gay. You should edit this, CCP really doesn't tolerate anti-gay comments. My old lady rides a Night Rod too. Good chics bike. . lmfao. Chics bike. Your old lady must be huge because my wife can barely move it off its stand. Its about 200kg. Nope. 130lbs maybe. Ex bike cop and can handle my 900lb Electro like its a scooter. lolol. please don't mention electroglides and nightrods in the same sentence. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Telling someone off is not violent, especially when I specifically stated it wouldn't be violent. The last time I bashed someone was my sisters boyfriend 11 years ago, he punched her in the face in front of me after a game of vodka chess.. Pieces are shots and you lose a piece you drink it.
He lost, both the game and the use of his eye for 3 weeks. I'm actually very passive and peaceful, however I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny.
Are you now threatening to take someone's eye out, Ziona? I think you are trying for the forum rule hat trick. Harassment, threats, slander. Are you working in tandem with Ripard to bring CCP bad press? *shakes head in shame* Since when it is against forums rules to tell someone off at fanfest? Try harder.
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Telling someone off is not violent, especially when I specifically stated it wouldn't be violent. The last time I bashed someone was my sisters boyfriend 11 years ago, he punched her in the face in front of me after a game of vodka chess.. Pieces are shots and you lose a piece you drink it.
He lost, both the game and the use of his eye for 3 weeks. I'm actually very passive and peaceful, however I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny.
You can embarrass yourself then because for some reason you have an unhealthy fixation on it to the point you have to accuse others of supporting it with little proof or evidence. Again this is an example of cyber-bullying, you are attempting to destroy the character of other people whom don't agree with you. Would you find it amusing if someone called you a pedophile and inferred you were watching illegal vids of underage children engaged in illegal sex acts with adults? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Telling someone off is not violent, especially when I specifically stated it wouldn't be violent. The last time I bashed someone was my sisters boyfriend 11 years ago, he punched her in the face in front of me after a game of vodka chess.. Pieces are shots and you lose a piece you drink it.
He lost, both the game and the use of his eye for 3 weeks. I'm actually very passive and peaceful, however I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny.
Are you now threatening to take someone's eye out, Ziona? I think you are trying for the forum rule hat trick. Harassment, threats, slander. Are you working in tandem with Ripard to bring CCP bad press? *shakes head in shame* Since when it is against forums rules to tell someone off at fanfest? Try harder. You barely get a ban encouraging someone to kill themselves at fanfest. It's probably against some sort of viking law if they have assault statutes, IANAL. Either way its still being a cyber-bully. I doubt that very much. My post was not a threat, I specifically stated I was not going to be violent. I just want you girls to realise that I'm going to turn up there and you're going to have to communicate with me person to person. You can sit there being total assholes in your anonymity but I intimidate people IRL because of my size so just be forewarned. If you're here making fun of pedophilia I will approach you and ask you your actual real position on it. Non-threateningly and peacefully of course. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Benny Ohu wrote:in fact i see infinity ziona asking leading questions to try and trick another player into accepting that they had called infinity ziona a pedophile, then posting that log on a public forum, against the rules, in an effort to discredit that player Leading my ass, it was outright. And they admitted it. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
I doubt that very much. My post was not a threat, I specifically stated I was not going to be violent. I just want you girls to realise that I'm going to turn up there and you're going to have to communicate with me person to person. You can sit there being total assholes in your anonymity but I intimidate people IRL because of my size so just be forewarned. If you're here making fun of pedophilia I will approach you and ask you your actual real position on it. Non-threateningly and peacefully of course.
Now sexism too? When will the bullying stop? Hey I don't know your real sex, I'm just inferring it from your posts. No sexism intended. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:If you're here making fun of pedophilia I will approach you and ask you your actual real position on it. Non-threateningly and peacefully of course. GǪbut since no-one has done so and it is just a nonsensical strawman you've invented, the actual effect will be that you will physically intimidate people for a completely imaginary reason. There's a word that is often used to describe that kind of behaviour, you knowGǪ I don't intend to physically intimidate people. Its just a side effect of my job. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Mallak Azaria wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:in fact i see infinity ziona asking leading questions to try and trick another player into accepting that they had called infinity ziona a pedophile, then posting that log on a public forum, against the rules, in an effort to discredit that player Leading my ass, it was outright. And they admitted it. But where is the proof that he actually did it? Providing proof beyond reasonable doubt goes a long way to proving your point. So far all we have here is you interpreting the word "and" to mean "yes". Can't post logs but here is two lines from the logs:
Infinity Ziona, am I disturbing your child **** viewing You sick little monkey, you.
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The mentality and behavior of people in this thread is really appalling. I feel sorry for you all. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Mallak Azaria wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:in fact i see infinity ziona asking leading questions to try and trick another player into accepting that they had called infinity ziona a pedophile, then posting that log on a public forum, against the rules, in an effort to discredit that player Leading my ass, it was outright. And they admitted it. But where is the proof that he actually did it? Providing proof beyond reasonable doubt goes a long way to proving your point. So far all we have here is you interpreting the word "and" to mean "yes". Can't post logs but here is two lines from the logs: Infinity Ziona, am I disturbing your child **** viewing You sick little monkey, you. That's just one of them. It's been raving for months. That didn't stop you from posting a screenshot of you interpreting a word to mean something that it isn't. So after all of this here is what we have: You said a bad word & were warned for it, random guy did nothing wrong, you post a meltdown thread on the forums, you then proceed to imply that anyone who disagrees with you thinks child **** is cool, you post a picture of some guy & threaten to intimidate people. A solid case of both cyber-bullying & real life intimidation right there. The EVE community does not need nor want people like you, please leave. Its actually not some guy, its me, as can be clearly seen since I posted a screenshot years ago of me, clearly an older me :) And I think your attempt at the cyberbullying thing failed before it started. Afterall, clearly the people in here are the ones attempting to cyberbully. Doesn't work on me. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Solecist Project wrote:This guy should be permabanned, because he displays himself as actual threat to others.
I don't believe the picture (no reason to. no proof it's him), but it doesn't matter if he's a giant, a midget or whatever.
When this guy gets drunk somebody dies.
I'd rather take his mental state seriously.
LOL. I work nightclubs as a dog handler, have done since 2007, you know the last time I had to physically touch someone? Never because I have very strict self control. Besides my dog bites them instead.
As for drinking, I do it rarely, but I'm a happy drunk. Its the small nerdy guys you have to worry about.
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: That didn't stop you from posting a screenshot of you interpreting a word to mean something that it isn't. So after all of this here is what we have: You said a bad word & were warned for it, random guy did nothing wrong, you post a meltdown thread on the forums, you then proceed to imply that anyone who disagrees with you thinks child **** is cool, you post a picture of some guy & threaten to intimidate people.
A solid case of both cyber-bullying & real life intimidation right there. The EVE community does not need nor want people like you, please leave.
Its actually not some guy, its me, as can be clearly seen since I posted a screenshot years ago of me, clearly an older me :) And I think your attempt at the cyberbullying thing failed before it started. Afterall, clearly the people in here are the ones attempting to cyberbully. Doesn't work on me. Except we aren't the ones who started a rage thread over an in-game consequence for our cyber-bullying now are we? I don't know why you doubled down on the cyber-bully but, it is not helping you. First no rage. Comment. Second I'm not looking for help :) Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Solecist Project wrote:This threat now belongs to us until it ends.
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La Nariz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:This guy should be permabanned, because he displays himself as actual threat to others.
I don't believe the picture (no reason to. no proof it's him), but it doesn't matter if he's a giant, a midget or whatever.
When this guy gets drunk somebody dies.
I'd rather take his mental state seriously.
Yeah the mental state thing is concerning for someone who thinks its okay to take a video-game action to real life. Its even more disturbing that they think their dogwhistle language of "stern talking to" makes it okay. The lesson I think we can all take from this thread is that cyber-bullies are bad. Fragile poppets, getting scared of a gentle bodybuilding dog handler with a trained attack dog, coming to Fanfest to have a non-violent verbal discussion with you about making fun of child exploitation material... grow up. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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i-AA wrote:Your picture invites harassment.
Its your fault people look at you and want to abuse the **** out of you. That's discriminatory.. You're saying the way I look is justification for harassment? WTF?
ALSO WTF "Cream Pie Carpet Munchers" and I'm getting warned for the F word. WTF??? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:This guy should be permabanned, because he displays himself as actual threat to others.
I don't believe the picture (no reason to. no proof it's him), but it doesn't matter if he's a giant, a midget or whatever.
When this guy gets drunk somebody dies.
I'd rather take his mental state seriously.
Yeah the mental state thing is concerning for someone who thinks its okay to take a video-game action to real life. Its even more disturbing that they think their dogwhistle language of "stern talking to" makes it okay. The lesson I think we can all take from this thread is that cyber-bullies are bad. Fragile poppets, getting scared of a gentle bodybuilding dog handler with a trained attack dog, coming to Fanfest to have a non-violent verbal discussion with you about making fun of child exploitation material... grow up. So now you're threatening me with dogs at fanfest. Literal from cyber-bully to real life bully. Yeah like I'm gonna take a dog to fanfest. She'll be hot. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:UAxSunShine wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:You guys are terrible. I bet not a single one of you has given a thought to how CCP Falcon, just getting his morning coffee, is going to react when he sees this tread. I guarantee the motorcycle riding, eye socket punching, vicious dog handler bully IRL hasn't. I'm sorry CCP Falcon. I'm so very sorry. Dammit man! I had gone upstairs to shave and get my composure, and I come and see that? Now I'm in hysterics. Again. I was laughing so hard, I was crying.     I pooped a little  Your comment was the kicker, that was when I started laughing so hard I was crying. This thread has more tears than the dentist's office next door to Disneyland. I don't care what he thinks. I haven't broken any rules, other than generally posting about a warning. Since I have never had a warning on the forums the most I could receive is a warning for posting generally about an in game warning.
What I have decided to do is write an official letter of complaint to CCP as they have breached their side of the EULA by not taking care of the person that is constantly harassing me in game. As an original EvE Online subscriber, a loyal customer for over 10 years and someone who supported them in the early years I think I deserve to have CCP pay attention to their side of the bargain.
They have a duty of care towards their customers, one of those duties is to ensure other players play within the rules and do not take harassment too far. They have allowed a player to follow me from system to system for over 4 months harassing me verbally and calling me defamatory and upsetting names. No one in game deserves that sort of harassment, and no one deserves to be called a pedophile or have inferences towards them in relation to committing a serious sexual offence such as watching child exploitation material.
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Sad MonkeySpanker wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read. What about spending weeks watching a SC pilot log in and out in order to gank them...? Following/stalking someone is well within the EULA - harrassing someone unduly isnt. Looks to me like he is trying to disrupt your ISBoxing - and succeeding - and your all butt-hurt. If the GMs have looked at the conversation logs and decided he's within the EULA then - t.s.b. From what Ive seen of your chat log screenshot, I'd side with the GMs. Lol. Disrupt what ISBoxing? The only ISBoxing I do is in UF-KKH in stealth bombers, somewhere he is not. HIs goal was clearly stated "to harrass me" in the screenshot I took. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:The only ISBoxing I do is in UF-KKH in stealth bombers, somewhere he is not. So he's not actually following you around, then? Actually he is. As he stated in the screen shot, exact words "I'm here for you". My alts are the ones being ISBoxed in UF-KKH. This guy follows the Infinity Ziona character around.
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:You seem to be very sensitive and emotional about what people say about you in fantasy pixel land, not a virtue I would expect from a nightclub bouncer using dog as a crowd control measure. I expect people to not take things too far in an MMO. When a person crosses the line from in game play to deliberately harassing one player, including calling them foul names like pedophile then I believe they should be removed from the game. This is clearly crossing the line imo.
As stated in the EULA you may not constantly follow a single player around harassing them, especially not for months on end without a break. You may perform some repeated actions (like killing a player) in game but the rule is that you must be doing it for a specific reason, to make isk, for intel, etc. This person has admitted they are only there to harass me personally to make my play more unpleasant.
Whether you're a low life and think that's fine is not important, what is important is its a breach of the EULA and as such should be taken care of. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Pak Narhoo wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I haven't broken any rules, other than generally posting about a warning. Since I have never had a warning on the forums the most I could receive is a warning for posting generally about an in game warning.
Just stop dude, just stop (digging you'll end up in China this way). Discussing moderation on the forums is a no-no. Making a real life thread about coming to fanfest to give some people your sternest opinion, big no-no. Making or implying an other real life thread with scary dogs very big no-no. You got a warning, a fnucking tiny little imsy whimsy minor warning and you making me unable to get to my work because I'm glued to this roller coaster of tears. Tears from you and mine from laughter. Just stop.  Nice try but in the post I made I specifically stated "in a non-violent way". A stern telling off is not something you get banned over. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Whether you're a low life and think that's fine is not important, what is important is its a breach of the EULA and as such should be taken care of. GǪand apparently, the GM's don't agree with your assessment of the situation. Considering the fact that you even got slapped with a warning for your own bit of harassment, there's a fair chance that they just see it as two people competing for the same bit of space, with harsh words flying in both directions. The fact that you got slapped shows that they're clearly doing something, and you have no way of knowing what's happening on the other side of the conflict. It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not. The EULA is a binding agreement, binding on CCP and the user. It is a legal contract that lays out the responsibilities of both parties and is LEGALLY BINDING on both parties. CCP do not get to pick and choose which clauses they enforce and which ones they don't. They are legally bound to all the clauses. If they renege on one clause they're in breach of contract. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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i-AA wrote:Reason why this thread isn't locked yet, is just so GD can have the pleasure of shiting on you a little more, while GMs and ISDs laugh behind your back.
2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tuhikya wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Guys I'm really getting kind of freaked out here. Now he's talking about sicking vicious dogs on people. I've never experienced this sort of bullying and abuse before. Who should I call about it? Is there some sort of hotline for victims of bullying? I'm just playing a video game and now some guy is going to "give me a stern talking to" with his wife beater shirt, big muscles and vicious dogs. This is just beyond the pale. Really no choice here. I'm going to have to call:
Ripard Teg, Dog Catcher. I can see how you are now scared to attend fanfest ... clearly the Infinity snowflake cannot separate a game from real life ... making veiled threats of "setting the dogs on you" is unacceptable .... unless they were slaver hounds of course Actually that post was specifically in response to a personal attack in which the person personally attacking me inferred that when I drink I go crazy. My response was that I rarely drink, am not violent and the only one to be worried about was my dog. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tuhikya wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Guys I'm really getting kind of freaked out here. Now he's talking about sicking vicious dogs on people. I've never experienced this sort of bullying and abuse before. Who should I call about it? Is there some sort of hotline for victims of bullying? I'm just playing a video game and now some guy is going to "give me a stern talking to" with his wife beater shirt, big muscles and vicious dogs. This is just beyond the pale. Really no choice here. I'm going to have to call:
Ripard Teg, Dog Catcher. I can see how you are now scared to attend fanfest ... clearly the Infinity snowflake cannot separate a game from real life ... making veiled threats of "setting the dogs on you" is unacceptable .... unless they were slaver hounds of course Also the reason this thread exists is because someone, likely Kaalrous, decided to make 3 alts and harass me, inferring I am a pedophile in real life.
If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game. If you attack me in real life then yes I will confront you, in a non-violent manner, at fanfest and ask you what your problem is. That is the right of every citizen. Or are you saying you can get banned for discussing defamatory comments with the person who made them IRL? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Solecist Project wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Actually that post was specifically in response to a personal attack in which the person personally attacking me inferred that when I drink I go crazy. My response was that I rarely drink, am not violent and the only one to be worried about was my dog.
I have a name you sick freak. :)
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not. Sure it does. It's what determines the outcome of your petition. Just because you see it one way doesn't mean you are in the right and that the GMs will rule in your favour. Quote:CCP do not get to pick and choose which clauses they enforce and which ones they don't. GǪand guess who's deciding whether or not you or the other guy is in breach of a clause and in need of enforcement? Guess whose assessment of the situation is what determines the outcome? If they determine that it's not harassment but just two people competing for space, the harassment clause is not applicable. And again, you have no way of determining what happens on the other side as far as the mutual mud-slinging goes GÇö you got slapped for your part so what makes you think that he didn't get slapped for his? The law decides. That's why we have contract law. CCP makes an agreement with the users, they MUST stick to that agreement, as much as the user must stick to that agreement. There is no scope for selective picking and choosing in regards to which clause they do and do not enforce.
It goes like this:
Statute law Common or Judge Made Law Contract Law CCP's Law.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:05:00 -
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Quote:Art. 234 Anyone injuring the personal honour of another by means of insult in word or in deed and anyone spreading such rumour shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year.
1) Act 82/1998, Art. 127.
Art. 235 In case a person insinuate to another something which would be to the detriment of his/her respect or circulates such an insinuation, this shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year.
1) Act 82/1998, Art. 128.
Art. 236 In case a defamatory insinuation be presented or circulated contrary to better knowledge, this will be subject to ? 1) imprisonment for up to 2 years.
In case an insinuation be published or circulated officially, despite the fact that the accusing party has not had likely reasons for believing it correct, this will be subject to fines ?1) or imprisonment for up to 2 years.
1) Act 82/1998, Art. 129. Insinuating that I am a pedophile or that I am watching child **** is an offence in Iceland. This is the relevant general penal code of Iceland. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Insinuating that I am a pedophile or that I am watching child **** is an offence in Iceland. This is the relevant general penal code of Iceland. So take it up with your local law enforcement. Its a matter for CCP as the owner of the game. CCP has to act. This person committed an criminal offence under the law of iceland, not a civil offence. The person is in breach of the EULA and should be dealt with. I'm not asking for them to be charged, I simply want them to stop following me around and leave me the fek alone. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:13:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Insinuating that I am a pedophile or that I am watching child **** is an offence in Iceland. This is the relevant general penal code of Iceland. So take it up with your local law enforcement. CCP has to act. This person committed an criminal offence under the law of iceland, not a civil offence. The person is in breach of the EULA and should be dealt with. I'm not asking for them to be charged, I simply want them to stop following me around and leave me the fek alone. LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!!!!
Quote:22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:16:00 -
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So CCP, you're going to have new prospective players come to the forums and read this thread. What they are going to see is that you allow players in your game to be harassed and abused by other players for no other reasons other than to degrade and ruin the play experience of the person being harassed. And they can do this for months at a time non-stop.
They're then going to read the bullying and abusive posts in this thread by other players laughing at this behavior and very likely going to decide NOT to subscribe to your game.
What are you going to do about this? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:19:00 -
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UAxSunShine wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Insinuating that I am a pedophile or that I am watching child **** is an offence in Iceland. This is the relevant general penal code of Iceland. So take it up with your local law enforcement. CCP has to act. This person committed an criminal offence under the law of iceland, not a civil offence. The person is in breach of the EULA and should be dealt with. I'm not asking for them to be charged, I simply want them to stop following me around and leave me the fek alone. Ok lets say CCP want to do something and this guy is from china. The first step is reporting the crime to the local authorities. Assuming CCP don't get laughed out of there then it goes up the chain through whatever structure there is to the top. Lets say it has to go through 5 people. This is assuming it won't get laughed at. Then it has to go through to the diplomats of iceland to extend to whatever country has committed the crime. Now assuming this goes through to the diplo and he says "oh my god Ziona's e feelings". And extends to the authorities in the area of the offender to arrest said individual. Then the offender has to get to iceland to face whatever justice system they have there. Or in australias case face the thunder dome. How much time and money would be wasted on this, how much of those resources will be better used elsewhere? What if these police are arresting an internet troll instead of someones life, how could their blood be on your hands? HOW COULD YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF? Actually CCP have made a promise, that's what an EULA clause is, to deal with these types of players. CCP needs to make good on that promise otherwise I'm paying for something they promised and are not delivering. CCP can keep their promise by applying the EULA in regards to ongoing harassment and defamation, which is an illegal act in Iceland, by dealing appropriately with the player in question.
There is no requirement for them to go to the authorities but there is a requirement under Icelandic contract law for them to do something. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:What they are going to see is that you allow players in your game to be harassed and abused by other players for no other reasons other than to degrade and ruin the play experience of the person being harassed. Do you have any proof of this? Quote:What are you going to do about this? Have a good laugh and lock the thread, most likely. If they did do that they'd be liable for breach of contract. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Actually CCP have made a promise, that's what an EULA clause is, to deal with these types of players. Where in the EULA did they promise this? And more to the point, what makes you think that they haven't? Quote:If they did do that they'd be liable for breach of contract. No, it's pretty much what they have to do according to the forum rules. Ok, maybe not the laughter bit, but I'm sure it'll happen anyway.
Quote:C. User Content
The System may allow you to communicate information, such as by posting messages in chat rooms, on bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas (collectively, "User Content").
User Content that you cause to be communicated to the System may not (i) violate any statute, rule, regulation or law; (ii) infringe or violate the intellectual property, proprietary, privacy or publicity rights of any third party; (iii) be defamatory, indecent, obscene, child pornographic or harmful to minors; or (iv) contain any viruses, Trojan horses, disabling code, worms, time bombs, "clear GIFs," cancelbots or other computer programming or routines that are intended to, or which in fact, damage, detrimentally interfere with, monitor, intercept or expropriate any data, information, packets or personal information.
CCP may take any action it deems appropriate regarding any User Content, if CCP believes, in its sole discretion, that such User Content violates the EULA or may expose CCP, its licensors and/or its suppliers to liability, damage CCP's relationship with any of its suppliers, licensors, ISPs or other users of EVE, harm anyone or harm CCP's reputation or goodwill.
You hereby grant CCP an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide, irrevocable, assignable, royalty-free license, fully sub-licensable through multiple tiers, to exercise all intellectual property and other rights, in and to all or any part of your User Content, in any medium now known or hereafter developed.
Violation of CCP's proprietary rights is a material breach of the EULA, in the event of which CCP may suspend your Account, terminate the EULA and take whatever additional action CCP deems appropriate under the circumstance. The foregoing is without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights and remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. While the terms used are "may" they're obligated under duty of care to "must". Icelandic case law clearly shows that in the event they do not act they may become liable for the defamatory material even though the author of the defamatory material is not CCP. While Icelandic law is more lax in regards to the people hosting that defamatory material if the person is not also the host allowing that person to continue to defame and harass a player would likely transfer some of that responsibility to the hosting party. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:35:00 -
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Functionary wrote:Actually this thread is now having a real life material impact .... Half of our office can no longer do any work due to laughter after Infinity Snowflake started the pseudo legal threats Damn we should be preparing cases for trial not reading this :)
They're not psuado, I'm a qualified paralegal and currently studying to be a lawyer. I researched the law in Iceland regarding Erotica1 and CCP's responsiblities as the host of EvE, which is the forum she was using to harass players out of game. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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PotatoOverdose wrote:IDK, sounds like Ziona is a pretty capable internet spaceships lawyer. One detective might not be enough... I'm quite capable out of game too. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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They're not psuado, I'm a qualified paralegal and currently studying to be a lawyer. I researched the law in Iceland regarding Erotica1 and CCP's responsiblities as the host of EvE, which is the forum she was using to harass players out of game.[/quote]
You cant damage the reputation of a fictional entity ..... This just gets better and better :) [/quote] Except the comment was to the person behind the keyboard. That I was not responding in real life because I was viewing illegal child **** on my computer. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:54:00 -
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UAxSunShine wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Functionary wrote:Actually this thread is now having a real life material impact .... Half of our office can no longer do any work due to laughter after Infinity Snowflake started the pseudo legal threats Damn we should be preparing cases for trial not reading this :)
They're not psuado, I'm a qualified paralegal and currently studying to be a lawyer. I researched the law in Iceland regarding Erotica1 and CCP's responsiblities as the host of EvE, which is the forum she was using to harass players out of game. Paralegal, bouncer AND a dog trainer? Next you'll be a psychologist talking to us about the harmful effects of **** talking on the internet. Oh look at that.
Notice the number next to the certificate, which in NSW Australia qualifies me to work as a Paralegal. Its the number of your post. Yes that's my nightrod its sitting on.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:58:00 -
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Functionary wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Functionary wrote:Quote: They're not psuado, I'm a qualified paralegal and currently studying to be a lawyer. I researched the law in Iceland regarding Erotica1 and CCP's responsiblities as the host of EvE, which is the forum she was using to harass players out of game.
You cant damage the reputation of a fictional entity ..... This just gets better and better :) Except the comment was to the person behind the keyboard. That I was not responding in real life because I was viewing illegal child **** on my computer. Unless a 3rd party could identify you in real life from the conversation your out of luck snowflake ... and No ... you revealing your identity after the fact to try and make a case will not fly ..... That said our senior partner has just offered you a discounted rate of -ú200 / hour to take up your case Unfortunately as we adhere to the Law Society code of conduct I do have to advise you that you will be wasting your money Still email me if interested Toodle Pip You might want to edudimicate yourself on the law in Iceland. This is not a matter for tort law, its a criminal offence. It doesn't matter if the person was not identified, it only matters that he accused me of being a pedophile and inferred that I was watching child **** to be criminal. The EULA specifically states that you may not commit a criminal offence with the EvE client, nor may you harass or defame or otherwise hurt another player.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 10:03:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Take your meds infini, and then get to bed.  Are you trying to make a personal attack against me by inferring that I'm mentally ill? That's against the rules. Keep breaking them and being obnoxious, I think prospective customers deserve to see what kind of people you are. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
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